Thursday, February 6, 2014

Why the Bill Nye Debate With Ken Ham Matters









Did the debate between Bill Nye and Ken Ham change anybody's mind, or did it only reinforce the viewers' current beliefs on the topic? Personally, my view wasn't changed. I do think that this debate helped the Creationist position because most well known  Evolutionists and Atheists would rather not have Creationists like Ken Ham given any credibility. For this reason, you don't see the Atheist Richard Dawkins Foundation  supporting such an event (see Why Bill Nye shouldn't debate Ken Ham). Sadly, now Pat Robertson has injected himself in the debate by criticizing Ken Ham (and every other Young Earth Creationist) by stating  "We have skeletons of dinosaurs that go back 65 million years...To say it all dates back to 6,000 years is just nonsense...No one knows what caused the Big Bang, but I say God did it..Let's be real, Let's not make a joke of ourselves." The ironic thing is that the liberal media outlets like The Huffington Post (see Pat Robertson Disagrees With Creationist Ken Ham, Says 'Let's Not Make A Joke Of Ourselves') are finally embracing Pat Robertson and his opinions. Go figure. The debate is a big win for Creationists and Ken Ham in general.  Whether you think Bill Nye or Ken Ham won the debate doesn't matter because now, much to the chagrin of groups like the Richard Dawkins Foundation, the Creationist platform is being discussed and given credibility. It, also, has many talking about God and Christianity. Sorry Atheists. Because of this, I give this round to God and the Creationists who are the big winners this week. However, I have no doubt God wins in the end. Well played God, well played.

Monday, February 3, 2014

New Wolves In Sheep's Clothing At My Door

Recently a group of people knocked on my door to invite me to their church.  I thought they were Jehovah's Witnesses because they weren't wearing white shirts and ties.  However, they were dressed in their "Sabbath" best and very polite.  They introduced themselves as members of the World Mission Society Church of God (not to be confused with the denomination Church of God).  When I told them that I wasn't interested they all began questioning me about whether I knew about "God the Mother?" This made me rethink whether they were actually an offshoot of Mormonism. They told me that "Heavenly Mother" was alive and the Bible proved it.  They, also, said that I did not worship on the true Sabbath.  I told them I wasn't interested, and shut the door.  Instantly I wondered if I should have engaged them in a discussion. My wife Lesley left for the store shortly after this encounter. During her trip she saw a different group of people talking to a lone man. She told the man, who seemed perturbed by her interruption, that he should not listen to them because they were a cult.  One of the church members told her that there were different types of cults: dangerous and regular. She invited them to come back some time to discuss the Bible, gave them her number and continued on her errand. She told me about the encounter, but we thought we would never hear from them again.  A couple days later a man named Charles called and asked if they could come by the same night for a Bible study.  I agreed, but was concerned that we only had a few hours to study their church and doctrines.  However, I knew that God would gives us the words to share the truth with them.

Ahn Sahng Hong the man
worshipped as Jesus' 2nd 
coming by the WMSCOG


Two members of the WMSCOG arrived shortly after the appointed meeting time.  They were dressed very sharply and seemed very humble .  They introduced themselves as Dante and Charles.  Charles was a good 15 to 20 years older than Dante, but it was very clear from the start that Dante was the man in charge.  Thankfully, they did not ask to pray with us.  After a few uncomfortable minutes of chit chat, Dante began to share scriptures that he said proved that Jesus had already returned a second time. All the scriptures were related to Jesus' First Coming.  When I would point this out, he stated that the scriptures were a mystery to those who weren't members of their church. He stated that Jesus' Second coming would have to last 40 years because Jesus was to reign on David's Throne. I interrupted him and explained he was misinterpreting scripture and prophecies. I told him that I knew he was attempting to show me that a Korean named Ahn Sahng Hong was Jesus.  He stated that I obviously had been looking online at sites critical of his church. This reminded me of my days as a Mormon.  It was always shoot the messenger because the message could never be correct. Dante seemed uncomfortable.  He wanted to show me in the NIV Bible that his church had the New Jerusalem. I asked if this was in Korea.  I asked him if this is where Heavenly Mother lived? About this time Charles started chiming in that of course there is a Heavenly Mother because all creation has a mother. He also told me that Dante met Heavenly Mother when he went to the Korea (which happens to be the birthplace of their false Jesus and false Heavenly Mother aka Zhang Gil Jah). The discussion that night didn't last much longer.  I asked Dante and Charles
Zhang Gil Jah
aka Heavenly Mother
if their Heavenly Mother would die like their Christ Ahn Sahng Hong? I asked them what they would do if this happened. Dante said that he could not allow himself to ponder that question.  I told them that she would die and that somebody else will step into her place claiming to be the one, and that they will remember our conversation. They said this would never happen. Lesley and I shared with these deceived men that our God lives.  We shared that Jesus will come again and every knee shall bow.  I asked why this didn't happen in Korea with Ahn Sahng Hong. Dante said they needed to go. I asked them if they wanted to get together again, or were we "dead" (a term they use for non members of the WMSCOG which Dante confirmed for me) to them. To our amazement they agreed to meet with us.  The second meeting was very short. I met with them by myself. Dante and Charles were once again very polite until I told them that we needed to end our study because they continued to twist and manipulate the Bible for their false beliefs. Charles began to attack me for stating what I believed and felt. He stated that they shared the Bible and that they did not share their beliefs. Dante sat quietly during this short visit. Charles seemed to want to get out all their pet doctrines like the Saturday Sabbath, the Cross as merely the instrument in Jesus' death and that Christmas was a pagan holiday.  I told them we were done. Charles said Lord's blessings to me as they got up to leave. I told him that 2 John 1:10 did not allow me to give them any encouragement and that they were no longer welcome in my home. 

These men have remained on my mind and in my prayers since our last meeting. I ask that you pray for Dante and Charles' salvation and deliverance from their cult. Though the names of their leaders and the name of their church were different, the message is just as false as all the other cults. Satan may change the locale and names, but he continues to present the same old scenarios to trick the lost. However, the new wolves will never be victorious over the true Jesus of the Bible. Jesus lives and He is not found in a grave in Korea. 
You can read more about the World Mission Society Church of God at the following links:
CARM
C/FAR
Examining the World Mission Society Church of God
Let Us Reason
World Mission Society Church of God  (official site)






Saturday, February 1, 2014

Beyond Mormonism : An Elder's Story by James R. Spencer

American Atheists: Big Ad Fail

Fans attending tomorrow's Super Bowl will get to see a billboard ad from American Atheists mocking the Catholic Hail Mary prayer.  Do the Atheists think that Christians will be offended by the ad? I am sure many Catholics will find the ad offensive, and they should because it is something sacred to them.  However, I am not aware of any Christians outside of Catholicism who even pray the Hail Mary.  If Atheists were trying to offend all Christians with their billboard they should have gone more generic to reach a broader audience.  Wasted advertising dollars, if you ask me.  The silly American Atheists should have hired the same firm used by the Mormons.  After all, the Mormons actually have been able to convince a few people they are actually Christian.